Failure to program some V3 tubular vibration sensor

Hello,

I have tried several times to reprogram some V3 tubular vibration sensor remotely (Over The Air).

3-Axis Vibration Sensor - Wireless Vibration Sensor

Each time I try, I get the message “No config err or ack, timeout” for ‘Power’ and “Retries” in Node-Red. The other variables are OK.

What is causing these error messages? Is it possible that these sensor have been successfully reprogrammed despite these error messages?

The sensors uses Firmware 20 and 23. Strangely, reprogramming works perfectly with other sensors using Firmware 20-23.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Hi @bertrand.gauvreau Please enable the ‘Wait For Network Formation’ checkbox. Then, disable all other already configured parameters and only leave the Power and Retries checkboxes enabled.

After making these adjustments, please try the configuration procedure again and share your results.

Thank you,
Eduardo M

I tried it and got the same error messages.

Hi @bertrand.gauvreau Apologies for the misunderstanding, this device does not support OTA, you can ignore the error messages, power and resets are set to maximum by default

Thanks,
Eduardo M

Hi @Eduardo_Mtz :slight_smile: Are you sure this device doesn’t support OTA? I’m asking because we regularly reconfigure this type of sensor remotely for our customers. You’re right about the default Power setting: it does seem to be the maximum (0x04). Unfortunately, in our case, we changed this setting to 0x03 before installation, and that doesn’t seem to be enough. That’s why we have to remotely reconfigure the sensors with the value 0x04.

Hi @bertrand.gauvreau I mean, this specific device does not support firmware update OTA. It does, however, support OTA Automatic Configuration.

Got it. Could you please try a factory reset? This will ensure the sensor returns to its original factory settings:

1. Press and release the RESET button
2. Immediately press and hold the CONFIGURATION button
3. Hold the CONFIGURATION button for about 20 seconds
4. Release CONFIGURATION button
5. Wait for 3 seconds
6. Press and release the RESET button

Then, perform a sensor configuration, leaving out; power and retries.
Thank you,
Eduardo M.

Hi @Eduardo_Mtz. The sensors are installed in one of our customers’ factories located more than 150 miles away from our office. That’s why I’m trying to reconfigure the sensors remotely (OTA). I really appreciate your efforts to help me. But I think we need to go back to the original question: “Why don’t the Power and Retries parameters give us the same confirmation message as the other parameters (True)” with these particular sensors, while this is OK with other similar sensors?
Thank You :slight_smile:

Hi @bertrand.gauvreau Sometimes the sensor doesn’t respond to the settings quickly enough, causing the Node-RED configuration process to time out. This is likely the reason you are encountering an error. Could you please try the sensor configuration process again a couple of times?

Thanks,
Eduardo M.

Hi @Eduardo_Mtz. I tried the sensor configuration process many times and I always get the same result.

Perhaps @Bhaskar could have an idea about the cause of this incorrect behavior of the Node-Red configuration node?

Thanks

Bert,
what if you only send
Wait for Network Formation
Power
Retries

Hi @Bhaskar.

I get this with the settings you suggest :

Thank you

Not sure why it wont respond. the default power and retires are set to max.

hi @Bhaskar

Is there an effective way to check the “Power” and ‘Retries’ values stored in the sensor once these values have been modified? Unfortunately, the values returned in “Config Results” do not include Power or Retries.

Thank you

can you try putting in it manual cfg mode

The sensors are installed in one of our customers’ factories located more than 150 miles away from our office. That’s why I’m trying to reconfigure the sensors remotely (OTA). Is there a way to read Power and Retries other than the Node-Red node in OTA, since the Node-Red node seems to be unable to do so for several of the sensors?

i got you. I will check with jacob and see if he has any ideas to check it.

were these values ever changed ?

We changed the Power and Retries settings at our office before installing the sensors at our customer’s factory. We reduced the Power setting to 3 to save battery life. But that was a mistake. That’s why we want to change the Power setting back to 4 and also verify that the setting has been changed correctly. We have around 30 sensors in the same situation.

Thank you

Hi Bertrand,

Could you let me know the firmware version of the sensor that you’re seeing this on? It should be listed on a sensor_data message.

@jacob Firmware 20

Thank you

@jacob

I ran tests with seven V3 tubular vibration sensors, type 84.

Five of these sensors use firmware versions lower than 23 (17, 20). All of these sensors returned error messages during configuration.

Two of these sensors use firmware version 23 and 24. They did not send any configuration error messages.

Therefore, based on my observations, the error message during configuration seems to be related to the firmware version.

Now the key question is: are these messages generated because of a bug in the node-red-wireless node, because the parameters are simply not saved in the sensor, or because the sensor sends an error message even though the data has been saved correctly?

I have already spent several hours performing these tests. Unfortunately, I cannot go any further because further investigation is beyond my technical expertise.

Thank you.